With “La Si Jolie Vie d’Adil Rami”, Pascale Clark does her “Pascale Pro” on Pseudo Radio

Pascale Clark and Adil Rami, in May 2023.


“They are adored, scrutinized, noted, insulted, solicited, tracked down. Oil kings of the time, in shorts on the green carpet, in a little overplayed elegance in the evenings, hundreds of millions of kids around the world have dreamed of such a destiny: to become multimillionaires by scoring goals. » It is Pascale Clark who speaks and, for Pseudo Radio, she tells what the life of professional football players is like. And it’s beyond amazing. Both because the journalist knows so well how to conduct interviews and find the right tone and because she has this rather irresistible voice, let’s say it. When she says: “My name is Pascale Clark and you listen to ‘Pascale Pro'”, it is, literally, irresistible. Even if, fair play, she immediately admits that it was not she who found the title.

Not her, but then who? Ramdane Touhami, a jack-of-all-trades entrepreneur who has just set up Pseudo Radio, an independent podcast studio whose backbone is, as the press release claims, “the requirement, the exuberance and the relevance”. With “star interviewers”, like François Simon (former food columnist for The world), which will offer “Restôrateur”.

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But back to Pascale Clark. The one who easily admits that she no longer wants to do political interviews or promote artists has therefore chosen football – a world that is very difficult to penetrate. But in the story, she says, there is an intermediary, Farid Kounda (author, in particular, of the documentary In the heart of the Blues, in 2016), who opened his address book to him. What interests him? Tell their daily life: “There is a huge gap between their notoriety and what they experience, which often rhymes with loneliness and boredom. »

No jargon

So, her digital Nagra slung over her shoulder and her bag full of questions, Pascale Clark set off to question those who we see a lot but who we rarely hear at length, and other than at the end of a match. No trick questions, but no jargon. It must be said, in this sense, that the first episode, around Adil Rami, is quite exemplary. The interview begins at his place, in this large apartment in the old town of Troyes. It’s the beginning of the afternoon and the last moments of the 37-year-old’s professional career. And to remember the games, child, where all shots were allowed, “even a potato, sometimes”. His nicknames? ” Without brain ” ; and “Bouge-bouge”, for his mother. A mother who raises her four children alone, to whom he owes everything.

Adil Rami will first be a mechanic, then a garbage collector, before becoming a defender. The next day, Pascale Clark finds him at the time of the weighing, since this is how each day begins, with this body scrutinized with a magnifying glass. With his 91.7 kilos for 1.90 m, Adil Rami talks about money without taboos, says he has put his family to safety by buying houses, which he owns “a lot of apartments and nursing homes”. Speaks of women, of whom he “distrust”. Does not regret his love affair with Pamela Anderson and denies having been violent with her.

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We then say to ourselves that it is rare to hear football players like this. That Dame Clark has once again pulled off a radio sleight of hand like no other. She would like to interview coaches, referees “and players, of course”. “I think every story will be different. I hope there will be no way to do it, only the fundamentals: go see them on site and that they offer us a bit of themselves. »

“Pascale Pro”, 1er episode “La Si Jolie Vie d’Adil Rami”, a podcast by Pascale Clark, directed by Elsa Daynac (Fr., 2023, 38 min). On Pseudo Radio and all the usual platforms.

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